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Brian and Chris - Slowdown the Hoedown

Brian was in Tractor Hips. Chris was in Joby's Opinion. Together they form Brian and Chris. The duo was formed to compose soundtrack music for a film done by Jonathan Parra. This music comprises their debut self-titled album, available on their own imprint, This Record Label. The project has since turned into a full-time group, with two new members, a 2nd album set to be released this summer, and tour plans. Brian of Brian & Chris was kind enough to answer a few questions on the band and their debut album.

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fakejazz:So how do two guys from Chapel Hill end up forming a band in San Francisco?
l to r: Brian, Chris
Photo by Akim Aginsky
brian:Chris and I met in Chapel Hill. We shared mutual friends who introduced us. We became friends and eventually ended up living together in a house that included a gurney extracted from the Duke Hospital Medical Refuse, a huge rat, a full band set-up in the kitchen and lots of "artwork." Chris recorded both Tractor Hips records and those of his own band. Chris & I played in a band originally called the Electric Mung Experience (mung is what you get on your sunglasses when you drop them under the bleachers at a football game). We changed the name to shortwave and created a monthly forum for improvised music. Chris moved out to San Francisco in Dec. 1996. I moved out to San Francisco in Feb. 98 with the intention of composing music for my friend Jonathan Parra's film. Asking Chris to help me with the composition and recording seemed like the natural thing to do since we had such a good working relationship in the past. We eventually ended up living together again - in a basement - the gurney + more "artwork."
fakejazz:I've heard you are now using a different type of recording technique, recording parts of music and then piecing them together to form a song. How, technically, do you do this? How much of this was done on computer, or was it all done with tape manipulation?
brian:The first record was recorded entirely on 2 ADAT 8 track machines and mixed down onto a DAT. The structure of certain songs dictated that we first mix certain parts onto a DAT tape and then dump them back onto the ADAT.....finally mixing the final product back onto a DAT. Our next record which will come out in early summer was largely recorded using [the software] Cakewalk Pro Audio. We certainly had our fair share of problems with it but I must admit that I've warmed to recording and mixing on a computer.

I still appreciate analog recording but we've had to make due with what we've had access to. For us, making music at all takes precedent over whether we recorded in the analog or digital domain.

fakejazz:How are you preparing to play this material live when you tour this summer and early fall? Is it any more or less natural to practice and prepare it than music you made in a more traditional fashion with Tractor Hips?
brian:We recruited two other musicians, Jeff Van Earwage & Tom Petersen, to play with us. We then selected about six songs from the record to play live and have come up with a few new songs that we wrote together. It has been a challenge to recreate these songs in a live setting. Most of the songs have taken on a different character which I think is good - I know that I appreciate it when bands do something other than just regurgitate songs from their album in a live setting.
fakejazz:There are a wide variety of styles on this album. Some songs even draw from several different styles. For instance, "Undone Undine" seems to move from a Fahey/Gastr-like picked guitar progression, to a fuller, almost Mogwai-like part, then back down to a bluegrass hoedown. It is a great song. Was combining different styles in the same song something you had planned, or was it more an artifact of your songmaking process and just what came out as you wrote the songs?
brian:I would say that we wanted what we got as opposed to getting what we wanted - most of the time. I'm glad that you mentioned this song. The parts are not as different as they may seem. The acoustic guitar in the hoedown part is the the same riff as the one in the Fahey-esque beginning - only played much faster.
fakejazz:There have been several (but not many) indie records over the past couple years that used sax. However, I can't think of any that really incorporates the sax as well into the songs as you do on your album (that is, without stepping over the line into being a plain old jazz band like Isotope 217). Did you go out looking for a saxophonist to use on the album, or was it just a case of having talented friends and deciding there was no reason not to use them? Will a saxophonist be touring with you? If not, how or will these 3 songs on the album be performed?
brian:John Ingle studied at Mills College with our friend Bob Boster. Chris and I went to his senior thesis concert and immediately knew that we wanted to collaborate with him. There were a few songs that were missing something so we asked John to come in to lay down some tracks. It's a testament to his musical ability that we recorded the tracks for all 3 songs in about 3 hours and he had not even heard the songs prior to this.

John will not be touring with us as he is involved with many of his own projects including a great jazz quartet called Shinola. We're performing "Cusp" sans saxophone. We're not averse to performing the other two songs live but probably only for special occasions as none of us play saxophone.

fakejazz:To release this album, you started your own record label, This Record Label. Yet, you told me you're releasing your next album on another label. Are releases in the works for This? When I think of bands from San Francisco, your style(s) of music don't immediately come to mind. Are there many like-minded musicians in the area?
brian:We plan on releasing Jeff's solo project "Brown's my Favorite." Our haggard state of economics dictates that the bands that we support would have to be ones that we are really into.

Most people associate the Bay Area with groups like American Music Club and Thinking Fellers. We've met a lot of talented musicians here most of whom you've probably never heard of - folks from the Mills College graduate program in Music (John Ingle & Ann Dentel who contributed some cello tracks to our upcoming record), people we work with (Jeff Van Earwage who is now playing with us and Jeffrey Stott who used to play in Stella Mara and currently in Lumin - groups that mix traditional Turkish/eastern music with modern electronica & Jen Tait who contributed vocals to our upcoming record) and people we've met through mutual friends (jhno of Spool who contributed a remix to our next record). Community and shared experiences have always been important to us and I feel fortunate that we've had the opportunity to meet so many talented people.

fakejazz:Thanks for your time.

jim steed
2000 may 2
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